Posts by The 12 Apostates

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Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

And if I, a white UK citizen, attacked an immigrant regardless of the immigrant's colour, I wouldn't be racist. According to you.

That might be the worst attempt at a gotcha moment I've ever witnessed. My answer is no, it wouldn't necessarily be racist, it would depend on your motive for attacking them.

So, the Sentinelese aren't racist; they're tribalist.
Is it wrong for the Sentinelese to be tribalist, in your opinion?
Is it wrong for me to be tribalist?

Right and wrong aren't useful terms.

It's not doing the world any favours. War ultimately stems from tribalism, let's not forget. Historical wars over resources stemmed from a tribe's belief that their tribe was more entitled to those resources than the neighbouring tribe, etc. Nothing is truly gained from tribalism. If you think your tribe has better ideas than other tribes, then surely it would be better to invite other tribes in so that they can learn of your ideas. It's idealistic, but without ideals, what do we have to strive for.

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Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

I fundamentally disagree.

I used to be on your side on this, but I've re-examined British values over the years and I've come to the conclusion that our values are nothing more than paper. I've mentioned pluralism, but it's not really a British value because most people in Britain hate the idea of living with people who don't agree with them. We don't stand by our values and for that reason I don't think we can complain if others start migrating in who don't share them. They're just less hypocritical than us. The Brits aren't a true monolith, but we are monolithically hypocritical.

During the second world war, during the blitz, when people's houses were bombed out, one of the biggest problems was looting. We romanticise how Brits came together during that time, but the reality was that people were out for themselves. What are we truly preserving? A mere 60 years ago we were forcing homosexuals to undergo hormone therapy, we can't pretend we have a long tradition of tolerance.

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Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

Are the Sentinelese racist? Y/N?

No because they'd repel anyone who they don't know personally, regardless of race. They're tribalist, and racism is just a bigger form of tribalism.

191

Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

Sorry I edited my previous post after you posted.
I hate it when people do that. Sorry

I do it all the time. I'm too quick to hit the Post Reply button.

191

Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

If the UK became majority American or Australian I would be pissed off.

Fine but I don't think immigration policy should be constructed based simply on whether it pisses people off or not. There are bigger issues at stake than cultural preservation at this point.

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Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

I think my big issue with the skin colour talk is that it misses the point of what truly makes us different. It's what's in our heads that makes us different. I have a lot of non-white acquaintances and they are as varied as any random group. It's more that than the racism angle that irks me. Although, it is racist, let's not kid ourselves.

191

Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

Please explain how we get from there to a society where White British are a minority without astonishing levels of immigration?

Oh come on, I never spoke of the plausibility, I was arguing on principle. Could it happen overnight? No. Could it even happen in several decades with present levels of immigration? No. But would it be a bad thing if eventually the UK was majority non-white? I'll leave that for you to answer.

It certainly could happen with moderate levels over a period of centuries and that would be fine by me. LUHE seems to want the UK to remain majority-white indefinitely and there simply isn't any justification for this. If LUHE had said majority-democratic or majority-pluralist or even majority-non-Muslim, I'd have no such issue.

191

Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

The UK is, generally speaking, a very tolerant country. Nevertheless, UK citizens do not want to be swamped by foreigners who have no respect for UK law and customs.

I know, which is why we need better integration and better checks on who exactly is coming into the country, no argument there. What we don't need however is a quota on skin colour ratios.

As for the Sentinelese, their motivations may be pure to a degree, but their methods of dealing with visitors is nothing to be admired. Their way of life is so different from ours that is hard to imagine how we could ever converse with them, let alone integrate. But the people migrating to the UK are not quite as different.

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Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

No I strongly disagree with you because you are in denial about the scale of the problem. Integration can ONLY succeed when immigration is done slowly and gradually so that immigrants are motivated to become part of the indigenous population and not form foreign enclaves.
That is impossible with current rates of immigration.

Sir, what on earth is wrong with you? All I have argued against is the necessity for a majority-white society. I haven't at any point said that immigration policy doesn't need to change at all. Quite the opposite, I've suggested better integration, which de facto means changes to immigration policy. You in turn have suggested a way towards achieving this. No disagreement there. If I am in denial about the scale of the problem (not sure how you'd know, as I've not quantified anything), then perhaps you are in denial about the motives of those who argue for a 'majority white society'.

I might add that it's not so much the rate of immigration that's the problem, but the spread of it. But there are political reasons for that which will be very hard to do anything about. The rich aren't exactly keen on immigrants, and they are the people who hold sway ultimately.

You don't know much about Brits do you?

I don't know what FTS knows, but I know that us Brits aren't a monolith.

191

Diversity is White Genocide

by corrie54 in

asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

everybody says there is this race problem.

everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

The 12 Apostates

The Roman empire did not end until 1453 when the Ottoman army broke into the city of Constantinople (Byzantium also called by some, New Rome) and brought the final end to the Roman Empire. (That's unless you believe in a Eurocentric view of the world).

I mean I think it was clear that I meant the pre-schism empire.